Ekskluzivno:Xbox One [NE-OPIS]

[Ozi]

res je! lepa. ker ps3 je bil tudi tehnološko dooolge korake pred razvijalci in prvi kupci smo se načakali in načakali. glede na popularnost ps2 sistema je bil to izjemno mrzel tuš, ki nas je (=mene) odvrnil od ps3 in sem šel na izjemno vsidran xbox.

sicer močno dvomim, da bi sony spet obtičal v pesku na račun predimenzioniranosti projekta. tehnično gledano bo zadeva evolucijsko naravnana pri čemer je splet (omreženost) osrednji medij, ki ga konzole s pridom izkoriščajo že zdaj (ps3 pa itak). menim tudi, da cenovno ps4 ne more ponoviti nabavnega šoka svojega predhodnika - evolucija pač nikoli ne košta enako kot re-volucija (br,bt,...).

vedno sem težil s tem, da je socialna nota pri m$ toliko bolj dovršena na račun "partya", da to v kombinaciji z izjemno ličnimi in mamljivimi achievementi enostavno prekaša vse ostalo. a tudi če sony ostane na dolgočasnih trofejah, bo real-time socialno noto ne le dopolnil, pač pa je videti, da jo bo izstrelil v tri božje... višave. in to lajkam. jako.

od next-gen konzole pričakujem zlasti:

- intuitiven način socialne komponente in rabe le-te

- sodobno distribucijo iger z ustreznim cenovnim modelom

surova strojna moč, ki ni uporabnikom prijazna in ne izkorišča svojega primarnega namena, je spet zgolj nova smet na odpadu potrošniške objestnosti.

[matej1990]

Zanimivo branje na temo: Cloud gaming and Xbox One

Nič kaj obetavno se ne čuje, ko vidiš primerjavo kako švohne so internetne pipice.

[DrMiha]

Še dobro, da obstajajo strani, kot je Digital Foundry, da lahko strokovno razložijo zadeve na laiku povsem razumljiv način.

[matej1990]

En zelo kul 3D render konzole, Kinecta in kontroler:

Xbox One (click to view in 3D)

Xbox One so praktično same reže za hlajenje. Očitno so dobili lekcijo s pregrevanjem na Xbox 360 . Še Kinect ima reže na zgornji strani in zadaj v okrogli obliki (ventilator?).

Tako velika so hladilna rebera z ventilatorjem v Xbox One:

[Bessie]

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5KVcO7YjNs&feature=player_embedded

[Bessie]

Občutljivost novega kinekta

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSefGxnThc&feature=player_embedded#at=108

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdviGrPaQDQ&feature=player_embedded

[matej1990]

Turtle Beach bo na E3 predstavil slušalke za Xbox One:

Turtle Beach is excited to announce that it is working with Microsoft to develop market-leading audio solutions for Xbox One. The two companies will leverage their proprietary technology and experience in gaming to bring advanced audio solutions to consumers.

Earlier this week Microsoft announced the powerful new Xbox One. Under the agreement Turtle Beach will be among the first to market with Microsoft-licensed gaming headsets for the Xbox One.

[DrMiha]

MS naj bi imel dost velike težave s ESRAMom v procesorju. Se govori z zelo zanesljivih virov (že samo na GAFu je to potrdilo pet zelo zanesljivih uporabnikov, sam imam pa isti info iz treh drugih), da so yieldi procesorjev podpovprečni zaradi velikosti in kompleksnosti čipovja. Tko zna MS za večji iztržek pri izdelavi spustit frekvenco GPUja in posledično tudi moč konzole v primerjavi s Sonyjevo zadevo. Od 5 milijonov gradnikov naj bi kar 25% šlo na račun eSRAMA...

Skratka, več kot očitno so Microsoftovci v občutku superiornosti odpisali konkurenco in s svojo konzolo odjadrali v TV vode in uporabili strašno kompleksno arhitekturo, kar je vodilo v večmesečne zamude pri razvoju softvera, o čem sem govoril. Ko pa je Sony najavil 8 GB pomnilnika pa se jim je vse sesulo.

And more great news

Urejano Junij 5, 2013 od DrMiha

[Bessie]

Xbox ONE to be underclocked by 200Mhz

Microsoft engineers on fear of facing another RROD nightmare with their new XBOX ONE console, have decided to slow the system down by up to 200Mhz to resolve any possible problems with its launch.

Two different anonymous sources claim Microsoft is still having design issues with their CPU/GPU combo and their cooling system, so instead of risking another RROD massive nightmare of returns early after the launch of the XB1, they have decided to take a quick-fix solution to the problem and slow down the system by 200Mhz.

What does this mean to developers?

Well we already know that the PS4 is more of a powerhouse than the Xbox One. It has faster RAM and bus bandwidth than the Xbox One already. Under clocking the system will widen the gap between the two consoles, but at the same time will keep the failure rate on the Xbox One very low. The last thing we need is another RRoD fiasco.

In terms of games, you will see a significant difference in multiplatform titles. Lower clock speed means lower frame rates. This means that a game running 60fps on PS4 may only run at 30fps on Xbox One. Even given the current specs, this would probably still be the case except now we are under clocking the GPU. This could affect other things like the Peak Shader Throughput.

If Minecraft were to be released for both Xbox One and PS4, you'd see no difference. A game like Battlefield 4 my run at a lower framerate on the Xbox One than it does on the PS4. We still don't know how much the eSRAM is going to boost or hinder performance of the Xbox One.

We also can't leave out the fact that every developer, every game and every engine runs differently. They could theoretically boost frame rates on the Xbox One to match PS4 by turning off AA effects and lowering resolution.

Of course this is still a 'rumor' until confirmed by ripping apart actual consoles after it launches and testing the bus speed, etc. -- Also does this mean in the future if this 'rumor' turns to to be fact, that later models of XB1 will be faster after Microsoft solves the 'heat issue', or will they solve it before it launches this holiday season.

Povezava

[Bessie]

Podrobnosti o kontrolerju

[h=3]More Immersive[/h]

Impulse Triggers – Xbox One’s Wireless Controller sports four vibration motors – a small one behind each trigger that adds precise haptic feedback to the fingertips, and a larger in each grip for large scale rumbles. This gives users a sense of in-game directionality and depth, creating rich, immersive experiences where gunshots, car crashes and explosions can come to life.

For example, in “Forza Motorsport 5,” Turn 10 Studios is using impulse triggers to provide players with precise feedback that enhances the racing experience. If your tires break traction from over-acceleration or if you drift on the gas pedal, the triggers emit very distinct vibrations. This is combined with the chassis rumble that conveys impacts, engine roar and driving over surface irregularities like cobblestone.

Higher Quality Headset Audio – The data transfer rate between the controller and console has been improved, allowing for higher fidelity audio in communication headsets. In-game chat over Xbox Live, according to the team, will be in many cases clearer than talking on a phone.

[h=3]More Precise[/h]

Revamped Thumbsticks – The thumbsticks are built for precision and comfort. They’re smaller and outlined with a knurled texture for better grip. Competitive gamers will be pleased to hear the sticks require 25 percent less force to move, allowing you to adjust your aim in a first-person shooter or execute a half-circle sweep in a fighting game faster and more accurately. The controller also uses advanced electronics that reduce thumbstick deadzone in the center.

Brand New D-Pad – The old Xbox 360 D-pad is replaced by a new design that pays homage to classic controllers and is architectured to deliver more precision and tactile feedback for gaming. The D-pad’s cross shape is honed to provide accurate cardinal direction input, sweeping movements and combinations – important factors for sports and fighting games, and other experiences.

Buttons, Buttons, Buttons – The A, B, X and Y buttons are lower to the controller with tighter spacing, making the transition between each one smoother. A new, three-step manufacturing process gives these buttons a more premium look, as if the letters on them are suspended in 3-D space. The size and placement of the Xbox button has also changed so the view and menu buttons are more accessible.

Seamless Connectivity – Each controller uses a combination of invisible reflective technology and LEDs to send a patterned infrared signal to your console and Kinect sensor. Not only does this make pairing the devices seamless, but it enables Kinect to associate the controller with whoever is holding it. This introduces innovative experiences, such as player switching, where a split screen display can swap positions on the TV if users change seats on the couch.

Low Power State – If you’re watching a movie or need to step away from the TV, the controller enters a low power state that conserves your battery. The moment you pick it up again, it will be ready for use without having to resynch with the console.

[h=3]More Comfortable[/h]

Refined for Comfort – The controller’s design is deliberately honed to the closest tenth of a millimeter to offer the most comfortable fit in users’ hands, and was tested extensively by a broader age group than ever before to ensure it is optimized for as many people as possible. According to the team’s research, this improves gameplay performance and allows comfortable gaming for longer periods of time.

Angled Triggers and Bumpers – The triggers and bumpers are carefully designed for performance and comfort. The specific angling allows for a natural fit for your fingers, and the triggers require a lighter pull, so squeezing it repeatedly is an easier and more precise action.

Internal Battery Cavity –The compartment that houses AA batteries is built into the interior of the controller, providing more room at the bottom for your fingers to grip. Another convenient improvement is that the controller is both wireless and a wired– simply plug it into your console with a mini USB cable and the connection automatically switches to preserve battery life.

Picking up the Xbox One controller feels familiar. Its contours, heft and proportions are reminiscent of the Xbox 360 controller, and yet the augmentations the team made are evident. It is distinctly its own controller, enhanced with more than 40 technology innovations that make it more comfortable, precise and immersive – the ultimate accessory for your gaming needs.

“Simply put,” the Xbox team said, “it is the best controller we've ever made.”

[DrMiha]

Podrobnosti o sposojevanju iger, DRMju...

No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your friends list for 30 days)

Console Checks in Every 24 hours

Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at participating retailers

You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and then it is stuck with them.

Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time

[matej1990]

After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

Ja, ampak kolega bo vseeno moral najprej downloadat igro. Verjetno bodo imeli podoben koncept kot PS4, kjer je potreben samo del igre, da lahko začneš igrat, nato pa se v ozadju downloadajo še preostali del.

Kaj pa če fizično prinesem h kolegu moj plošček z igro? Jo bo Xbox zavrnil?

Nekaj glede internetne hitrosti:

For an optimal experience, we recommend a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps. (For reference, the average global internet connection speed as measured recently by Akamai was 2.9 Mbps). In areas where an Ethernet connection is not available, you can connect using mobile broadband.

1.5Mbps je dovolj za optimalno delovanje?

Vse to so napisali v ene odstavku:

While a persistent connection is not required... Games that are designed to take advantage of the cloud may require a connection.

With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.

Hočejo povedati, da ni potreben always on, čeprav vseeno je potreben.

No, na koncu vse skupaj ni tako hudo, kot je kazalo na začetku...

Moti me predvsem da ob igranju iger moram vsakih 24ur Xbox povezat v internet. To je problem če si nekje v tujini, kjer ti internet konkretno zaračunajo, hkrati pa je to še ena dodatna skrb, ki je prej ni bilo.

Problem je še prodajanje iger, ki bo sedaj praktično omejena samo na trgovine ali pa znance. Močno dvomim da bo pri nas katera trgovina imela podporo. Mogoče pa bodo presenetili in napovedali podporo tudi v SLO.

[Bessie]

Launch title

>http://youtu.be/4gHRXK4smLc

[DrMiha]

MS jih dobiva po glavi, mainstream mediji so popizdili, celo pro-MS občila majo dost tega sranja

• 8-4 Play Podcast: "Basically, to summarise what happened: Microsoft took a giant, steaming shit in the collective mouths of anyone who has ever been a fan of their system who had hopes that they were actually not going to fuck this up."
  
• Adweek: Gamers Grow Increasingly Incensed with Microsoft's Xbox One
  
• BBC: Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules
  
• Bloody-Disgusting: Microsoft Answers Our Lingering Questions About The Xbox One
  
• Blorge: Why gamers hate the Xbox One
  
• CNN: Microsoft talks game-sharing, 'always-on' Xbox One
  
• Complex: Microsoft Finally Reveals Xbox One Details, It's Mostly All Bad News
  
• Destructoid: Xbox One kills game ownership, here's what Xbox fans say
  
• Eurogamer: Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile
  
• Forbes Contributor: Microsoft Confirms Gamers' Fears Over Xbox One
  
• Forbes Contributor (2): Microsoft's Shortsighted Approach Might Have Already Killed Xbox One
  
• Forbes Contributor (3): The Xbox One Might Let Sony's PS4 Win By Default
  
• Giant Bomb: The Giant Bomb staff deciphers the digital-rights policies for Microsoft's new console through interpretive dance
  
• Giant Bomb (2): Major Publishers Silent On Xbox One Used Game Policies
  
• Kotaku: The Xbox One Just Had A Very Bad Day
  
• Kotaku (2): When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?
  
• LazyGamer: Microsoft confirms insane Xbox One DRM
  
• MCV UK: Indie retailers desperate for Xbox One pre-owned answers
  
• MCV UK (2): Publishers quiet over Xbox One pre-owned intentions
  
• Metro UK: Xbox One and the corporate war against consumers
  
• NBC News: Microsoft clarifies policies on game licensing, privacy, and DRM for Xbox One
  
• NowGamer: Xbox One: It's For Publishers, Not For You
  
• PC Magazine: Microsoft Xbox One: No Internet? Big Problem
  
• Polygon: Xbox One policy is a lovely marriage proposal to big corporations
  
• Polygon (2): Indie developers sound off on next-gen consoles and the importance of self-publishing
  
• RedOrbit: You Can Share Your Xbox One Games (Sort Of)
  
• TechnoBuffalo: Xbox One and Used, Borrowed and Sold Games – The Official Word
  
• TechnoBuffalo (2): Xbox One: Unless Microsoft Changes Their Policies, I’m Out
  
• TechRadar: Xbox One 'always online': What does it mean for gamers?
  
• TechSpot: Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all
  
• The Diplomat: Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?
  
• The Guardian: Xbox One requires daily net connection
  
• The Wall Street Journal: Microsoft’s Xbox One: Owning Your Video Games Is So 1994
  
• Time: Microsoft’s Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud
  
• VG247: Xbox One: the record is broken, long live the record
  
• WhatCulture!: Xbox One: 10 Shocking Things You Won’t Believe
  

A few things to note:

• VG247 have been denied E3 interviews.
  
• TechnoBuffalo confirmed in their article that they've been also been denied interviews, as have some of their colleagues.
  
• The list of confirmed outlets denied interviews is Giant Bomb, GI.biz, MCV, Tapezilla, VG247 and TechnoBuffalo. "Scheduling conflict", indeed.
  
• While the Forbes pieces are from contributors, they're currently the most read articles on the entire site.
  

[Gregor]

LOL a obstaja na račun Xboxa One karkoli kar ni sovražno nastrojeno?

[DrMiha]

Se bojim da ne, kriv si je pa MS kar sam...

[matej1990]

O fak... nisem vedel da je dejansko tako hudo.

[DrMiha]

Najbolj je presenetil MS sponzoriran Polygon, za njih nikdar ne bi pričakoval takega članka. Edino IGN se drži nazaj, ker se ne bi radi zamerili MSju zaradi TV kanala....

[Jackobi]

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sWcKtJj5_oY#action=share

Tale je kar dobra.

[Bessie]

Xbox One physically embodies our design principles. Viewed from above, it's two 16:9 rectangles, inspired by the aspect ratio of Live Tiles. The new controller is a product of relentless attention to detail — whether it's micro texture on the thumbstick (a response to observing how gamers grip the top and side during gameplay), embedding the battery compartment for more comfort and balance, or the triple-shot of injected resin buttons with that familiar Segoe font. (The buttons look so good my daughter thought they were candy.)

[Bessie]

[Bessie]

[TABLE]

[TR]

[TD]Xbox One ignites a new era of games and entertainment this

November

Fueling the excitement from the Xbox One reveal on May 21,

Microsoft today announced launch details for the highly anticipated next Xbox

gaming and entertainment system. Launching in 21 markets around the world in

November 2013, Xbox One is the ultimate all-in-one entertainment system built

for the 21st century living room — introducing a new world of games, music, live

TV, movies, sports, apps and Skype, all personalized to your interests and

accessible with the sound of your voice.

Every Xbox One system sold will

include the new Xbox One console — which features a 500GB hard drive,1 Blu-ray

player and built-in Wi-Fi — the new Kinect, one Xbox One Wireless Controller and

a free 14-day trial of Xbox Live Gold for new members. The Xbox One launch

bundle will be available for $499.99 in the U.S., £429 in the U.K. and €499 in

European markets.

To celebrate the launch of Xbox One, Microsoft is also

introducing a limited-edition commemorative bundle to fans who reserve the

system at major retailers, available in limited quantities, while supplies last,

for $499.99, £429 or €499 Reserving the commemorative bundle will guarantee that

you’ll be able to purchase the new system on day one. Each commemorative bundle

will include an Xbox One system that comes in premium black packaging with a

limited edition Xbox One Day One wireless controller, as well as a unique

commemorative Day One Achievement.

Gamers who reserve the following

exclusive Xbox One Day One edition launch titles, available in limited

quantities at major retailers while supplies last, will receive special bonus

content:

• Ryse: Son of Rome - Exclusive multiplayer map and sword

with bonus attributes.

• Forza Motorsport 5 - Access to four cars

tuned to the top of their class.

• Kinect Sports Rivals - Exclusive

sporting equipment that separates your Champion from the rest of the world.

•

Dead Rising 3 - Exclusive Frank West and Chuck Greene Tribute Packs with

bonus attributes.

In addition, as a message of thanks to the millions of

Xbox fans around the world for their passion and loyalty, Microsoft announced

that every qualifying Xbox Live Gold member — new or existing — will receive two

free Xbox 360 game downloads per month starting July 1 until Dec. 31, 2013,

including popular titles such as “Halo 3” and “Assassin’s Creed II.” And to

celebrate E3 in the month of June, Xbox Live Gold members will receive a free

download of “Fable III.”3 For a limited time gamers can also get a Day One

12-month Xbox Live Gold membership and play “Killer Instinct: Round One,” with

the exclusive Shadow Jago character, on Xbox One. Players will also receive a

commemorative Day One membership card.

All-new accessories to fuel the new

generation of gaming

Launching alongside Xbox One this November, a

new lineup of best-in-class accessories will make your new-generation gaming

experiences more immersive, precise and accessible

• Xbox One Wireless

Controller - The Xbox controller is refreshed with more than 40 technical

and design innovations. Updated directional pad, thumb sticks and contours

deliver greater precision and control, while new vibrating impulse triggers

offer precise fingertip feedback, bringing an unprecedented level of gameplay

immersion.4 The Xbox One Wireless Controller is designed to work in concert with

the new Kinect, allowing the two to be paired automatically to create seamless

player syncing.

• Xbox One Play & Charge Kit - This kit

includes a lithium ion rechargeable battery pack that fits inside the Wireless

Controller as well as a charging cable that connects from the Controller to the

console. Gamers can play on and on without having to buy a single disposable

battery. The new Play & Charge Kit charges twice as fast as its Xbox 360

counterpart and charges during gameplay or when the console is in standby mode.

The Kit is available for standalone purchase or as part of the Wireless

Controller with Play & Charge Kit bundle.

• Xbox One Chat

Headset - A must-have for fans of online gaming, the new Xbox One Chat

Headset, wired to the controller, is designed for long gaming sessions and clear

voice chat. With a lightweight and comfortable new design, the mono chat headset

features wideband digital audio and a unidirectional microphone. Gamers will

love not having to take their hands off the controller to access the microphone

mute and volume controls.[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

[Gregor]

Berem zadnji post od Bessija in ne morem mimo tega da prvič berem nekaj o novem Xboxu, kjer je celo večkrat uporabljena beseda "gaming".

[Bessie]

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Let's say you're excited about the Xbox One... so excited, in fact, that you're okay with spending $499 on it before you've even touched the gamepad. Microsoft wants to accommodate you: buy a system quickly enough and you'll get the limited Day One Edition. While the core system won't change, you'll get to flaunt your early adopter status through both a slightly customized controller and a special Xbox Live achievement. Microsoft is also offering a matching (though separate) Xbox Live 12-month Gold pass that bundles an exclusive Killer Instinct character. If those rarities are enough to encourage an early purchase, you can reserve one through Microsoft and other retailers. Let's just hope that there aren't too many launch day quirks.

[matej1990]

Xbox One bo hit v USA:

Following our Xbox E3 media briefing today, we were excited to hear from our friends at Amazon.com.

“We were thrilled by the unprecedented demand we saw for Xbox One today. In the first four hours of preorder availability, we sold through most of our Xbox One Day One Edition inventory."