XboxOne vs PS4 vs WiiU - Odprta "debata" za fanboye

[matej1990]

Meh, samo malo smo si (tako kot cel internet) privoščili MS in njihov PR. Kaj jim naj, če pa (še) kar kot po tekočem traku dajejo material za blatenje.

Konzoli sta si po specifikacijah zelo blizu, čeprav ima PS4 teoretično prednost, ampak bomo videli kaj bo praksa pokazala.

Ne vem za druge, ampak jaz sem mnenja da PS4 ni "oh in sploh", ravno zaradi podobne arhitekture kot Xbox One. Največja razlika bo v igrah (ekskluzive doh , pa še to jih bo veliko časovnih) in ponudbi storitev (PS+ vs Xbox Live). To in vsi ostali manjši detajli bodo vplivali na uspešnost teh dveh konzol. Trenutno kaže tehtnica v prid Sony-u in še to popolnoma zaradi MS krivde: posiljevanje s Kinectom, prva predstavitev konzole kjer so bile igre čisto izpuščene, DRM zaščita s stalno povezavo v internet, zanič PR ki ni znal vsega tega obrniti sebi v prid in na koncu veliki U-turn kjer so Xbox One spremenili v Xbox 180. Sony je praktično vse MS novosti/napake obrnil v svojo korist in si tako na enostaven in poceni način pridobil uporabnike. Kar poglej malo na internetu koliko Xbox fanov bo kot prvo konzolo to generacijo kupilo PS4 in šele kasneje Xbox One.

Sem skoraj prepričan da ga bom čez kakšno leto ali dve kupil tudi sam, ali pa vsaj ko pride ven slim verzija, da preigram ekskluzive.

In zakaj si ti tako zagret za Xbox One, napram PS4? S čim te je MS prepričal? Kaj ima Xbox One bolje kot PS4?

[xboxowner]

Meh, samo malo smo si (tako kot cel internet) privoščili MS in njihov PR. Kaj jim naj, če pa (še) kar kot po tekočem traku dajejo material za blatenje.

Konzoli sta si po specifikacijah zelo blizu, čeprav ima PS4 teoretično prednost, ampak bomo videli kaj bo praksa pokazala.

Ne vem za druge, ampak jaz sem mnenja da PS4 ni "oh in sploh", ravno zaradi podobne arhitekture kot Xbox One. Največja razlika bo v igrah (ekskluzive doh , pa še to jih bo veliko časovnih) in ponudbi storitev (PS+ vs Xbox Live). To in vsi ostali manjši detajli bodo vplivali na uspešnost teh dveh konzol. Trenutno kaže tehtnica v prid Sony-u in še to popolnoma zaradi MS krivde: posiljevanje s Kinectom, prva predstavitev konzole kjer so bile igre čisto izpuščene, DRM zaščita s stalno povezavo v internet, zanič PR ki ni znal vsega tega obrniti sebi v prid in na koncu veliki U-turn kjer so Xbox One spremenili v Xbox 180. Sony je praktično vse MS novosti/napake obrnil v svojo korist in si tako na enostaven in poceni način pridobil uporabnike. Kar poglej malo na internetu koliko Xbox fanov bo kot prvo konzolo to generacijo kupilo PS4 in šele kasneje Xbox One.

Sem skoraj prepričan da ga bom čez kakšno leto ali dve kupil tudi sam, ali pa vsaj ko pride ven slim verzija, da preigram ekskluzive.

In zakaj si ti tako zagret za Xbox One, napram PS4? S čim te je MS prepričal? Kaj ima Xbox One bolje kot PS4?

Ma nič nima bolje. Obe konzoli sta solidni in enakovredni. Vsaka ima svoje pluse in minuse. Ok, vemo da je MS PR pač zasral situacijo in da zraven vsakega xboxa dobiš kurčev kinect, drugače pa je konzola vredu in mislim, da bi bil že kmalu čas, da se neha s tem hejterstvom, ker meni postaja že dolgočasno.

Jaz sem pač začel z xboxom in bom tam tudi nadaljeval. Tam imam profil z kar nekaj točkami, sem pa tudi velik fan Forze....tako da....

PS4 bom pa kupil najbrž kasneje, če bo kakšna huda eskluziva

[matej1990]

No, lepo da nisi slepi fanboy, ampak samo izkazuješ svojo pripadnost podjetju na razumen način.

Drugače pa meni pri Sonyu gre že na živce njihovo non-stop trobljenje: indie, indie, indie,... INDIE!!!

Ja kul, razumemo da imate veliko indie razvijalcev itd. in da so določene indie igre res zelo dobre, ampak zdaj na Tokyo Game Show-u pa razkrijte še par AAA naslovov.

[Bessie]

Nekaj imajo zagotovo še na lagerju...

Sony Computer Entertainment Japan and Asia announced today with a press release that during Tokyo Game Show it will have “more than ten” PS4 games available to visitors at its booth.The titles publicly announced so far are Knack, Deep Down, Driveclub, Killzone: Shadow Fall,Wolfenstein: The New Order, PlayRoom and Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag, meaning that there should be at least four titles that haven’t been announced yet.Of course we don’t know if those four or more titles are actually games that we actually never heard about before, or just titles we already know about and that Sony just didn’t confirm for the show yet.Including PS3, PS Vita and PS Mobile, the publisher will show over fifty titles.The PS Vita area will include Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate, God Eater 2, The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki, New Atelier Rorona the Origin Story: The Alchemist of Arland, Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends, Jikkyu Powerful Baseball 2013, Dangan Ronpa 1.2 Reload, Gundam Breaker and Tearaway.The PS3 area will showcase Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 6, Ace Combat Infinity, Beyond: Two Souls, BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma, The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki, Sengoku Basara 4, Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends, Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate, Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z, Jikkyu Powerful Baseball 2013, Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD Remaster, Rain, Puppeteer, WonderBook, Jstars Victory Vs, Armored Core: Verdict Day, Dark Souls II, Batman: Arkham Origins, RockSmith 2014 Edition and Pro Evolution Soccer 2014.The PlayStation booth will also have a massive LED screen installed to broadcast events and gameplay, and developers will be in attendance.We also already knew that SCEJA will host a keynote on the first day of the trade show, titled “The Creative World of PlayStation 4”.

A dedicated website (in Japanese) has been opened, and we can probably expect it to be updated with other titles between now and the opening of the event on September the 19th.

[matej1990]

Ja, ampak KATERE IGRE?!?

[Bessie]

Zaenkrat potrejen Sony TGS LineUp

PlayStation 4

- Assassin's Creed 4

- Deep Down

- Driveclub

- Killzone: Shadow Fall

- Knack

- PlayRoom

- Wolfenstein: The New Order

PlayStation 3

- Ace Combat Infinity

- Armored Core: Verdict Day

- Batman: Arkham Origins

- Beyond: Two Souls

- BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma

- Dark Souls 2

- Eiyuu Densetsu: Sen no Kiseki

- Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster

- Gran Turismo 6

- Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2013

- J-Stars Victory Vs

- Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

- Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate

- Puppeteer

- Rain

- Rocksmith 2014 Edition

- Sengoku Basara 4

- Shin Sangoku Musou 7 with Musouden

- World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014

- Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z

PlayStation Vita

- Dangan-Ronpa 1 & 2 Reload

- Eiyuu Densetsu: Sen no Kiseki

- God Eater 2

- Gundam Breaker

- Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2013

- Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate

- Shin Rorona no Atelier: Hajimari no Monogatari - Arland no Renkinjutsushi

- Shin Sangoku Musou 7 with Musouden

- Tearaway

[Bessie]

Baje so najboljše igre na X1!?

With blockbuster exclusives, brand new franchises and games that will have exclusive or early access downloadable content, the best games are on Xbox One

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kjxb83K6jpo

[miham]

3/4 od teh so multiplatform. Ja definitivno so najboljše igre na Xbox-u.

[matej1990]

[matej1990]

MS je kupil domeno Xbone.com!

Zakaj? Zato:

[Bessie]

Evo next gen

4th-gen Core-i5 D54250WYK kit.

HD Graphics 5000

DisplayPort 1.2 jack with 4K capability

four USB 3.0 ports

an infrared sensor

stereo/mic jacks

a gigabit Ethernet controller

RAM (up to 16GB)

mSATA HDD

[matej1990]

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Yet more news has appeared regarding the hardware battle between the PS4 and the Xbox One, with developers telling Edge Magazine that third party they may choose to base games on the less capable Xbox One hardware as it makes more financial sense.

"It would be totally fine for us to make one version prettier without any political difficulties but it usually doesn't make financial sense," the developer said. "Unless it's a very simple tweak."

Apparently one developer went further, telling Edge that it would be better to "castrate" the PS4 version of a game so as not to upset Microsoft.

Comparing the power between the two machines, Edge's articles reports, "One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it'll run at "20-something" FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One."

To us it would make sense for the PS4 to have more power, after all Microsoft says that Kinect cost almost as much to develop as the machine itself and Microsoft has to make that money back somewhere.

[ke_kit]

Meh, samo malo smo si (tako kot cel internet) privoščili MS in njihov PR. Kaj jim naj, če pa (še) kar kot po tekočem traku dajejo material za blatenje.

Konzoli sta si po specifikacijah zelo blizu, čeprav ima PS4 teoretično prednost, ampak bomo videli kaj bo praksa pokazala.

Ne vem za druge, ampak jaz sem mnenja da PS4 ni "oh in sploh", ravno zaradi podobne arhitekture kot Xbox One. Največja razlika bo v igrah (ekskluzive doh , pa še to jih bo veliko časovnih) in ponudbi storitev (PS+ vs Xbox Live). To in vsi ostali manjši detajli bodo vplivali na uspešnost teh dveh konzol. Trenutno kaže tehtnica v prid Sony-u in še to popolnoma zaradi MS krivde: posiljevanje s Kinectom, prva predstavitev konzole kjer so bile igre čisto izpuščene, DRM zaščita s stalno povezavo v internet, zanič PR ki ni znal vsega tega obrniti sebi v prid in na koncu veliki U-turn kjer so Xbox One spremenili v Xbox 180. Sony je praktično vse MS novosti/napake obrnil v svojo korist in si tako na enostaven in poceni način pridobil uporabnike. Kar poglej malo na internetu koliko Xbox fanov bo kot prvo konzolo to generacijo kupilo PS4 in šele kasneje Xbox One.

Sem skoraj prepričan da ga bom čez kakšno leto ali dve kupil tudi sam, ali pa vsaj ko pride ven slim verzija, da preigram ekskluzive.

In zakaj si ti tako zagret za Xbox One, napram PS4? S čim te je MS prepričal? Kaj ima Xbox One bolje kot PS4?

Poglej njegov nick.

In pa, kot je rekel, počasi bi bilo dobro, da nehamo izpostavljat MSjeve slabe poteze, ker NJEMU postaja že dolgočasno! Clap clap.

Pač, vsakmu svoje. Eni so fani znamk, eni so fani iger, eni so fani servisov.

Fani iger bodo počakali, da pride kak res dober naslov (launch naslovi so vsi po vrsti za en k - verjetno z izjemo Forze), fani znamk in servisov pa bodo namesto z možgani še naprej razmišljali s srcem. Takle mamo.

Urejano September 13, 2013 od ke_kit

[matej1990]

[xboxowner]

Poglej njegov nick.

In pa, kot je rekel, počasi bi bilo dobro, da nehamo izpostavljat MSjeve slabe poteze, ker NJEMU postaja že dolgočasno! Clap clap.

Pač, vsakmu svoje. Eni so fani znamk, eni so fani iger, eni so fani servisov.

Fani iger bodo počakali, da pride kak res dober naslov (launch naslovi so vsi po vrsti za en k - verjetno z izjemo Forze), fani znamk in servisov pa bodo namesto z možgani še naprej razmišljali s srcem. Takle mamo.

O prjatu kekit. Kako si kaj?

[ke_kit]

A zdaj boš tudi tu spamal brezvezne poste (kot je tale), ki nimajo nobene zveze s temo?

Namesto, da neprestano skušaš bit smešen (mnenjalnik), probaj podat kak pameten argument. Ali pa enostavno ne postat.

[Bessie]

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Anonymous developers are saying not very nice things about the Xbox One's graphics drivers, saying that currently they are "horrible" and that the difference between the Xbox One and the PS4 is "obvious" and "significant."

An article on Edge sums it all up, talking to unnamed developers currently working with both next-gen consoles and the trend seems to be that they favor the PS4. One developer said that MS has "been late on their drivers and that has been hurting them.” Another simply says their graphics drivers are "horrible."

Word is that the PS4's memory reads 40%-50% faster than the competition and that it's ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is about 50% faster than the Xbox One's unit.

As the article reads, a “platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at ‘20-something’ FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One”.

They all say that work continues building up the consoles release (and after), but right now it's making life hard for these guys. Microsoft continues to say that “the way people are calculating the differences between the two machines isn't completely accurate.”

[Bessie]

[matej1990]

An analyst firm is predicting that the Sony PS4 will have 20% higher installed base than the Microsoft Xbox One due to the PS4's lower price and Microsoft's poor PR handling.

Več na to temo: KLIK!

[xboxowner]

A zdaj boš tudi tu spamal brezvezne poste (kot je tale), ki nimajo nobene zveze s temo?

Namesto, da neprestano skušaš bit smešen (mnenjalnik), probaj podat kak pameten argument. Ali pa enostavno ne postat.

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[Phantom]

http://www.siol.net/novice/tehnologija/igre/2013/09/ps4_od_xboxa_one_hitrejsi_za_50_odstotkov.aspx

Da se boste spet lahko malo kregali

[ke_kit]

Old overhyped news. So exciting!

[Bessie]

Sneti v zadnjem Jokerju pravi, da je PS4 Joypad najboljši kar jih je kdaj prijel, boljši tudi od X1, ki je tudi odličen...

[mjugen]

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kreteni so uspeli zdizajnirat najgršo škatlo ever...takšna je kot windows 8 in njihov bolestni windows phone.......

Dripec sem tudi sam ker bom dotični izdelek tudi kupil in dal cekine v Redmond...........fuck me

[mistress3riple]

sedaj bom eno zakšno "žensko" rekla.....mene ps4 bolj privlači, ker je modra škatla res no. modra je moja barva in ta zelena pri xbox me je vedno odbijala

ok, saj bom kupila tudi xbox ampak šele neslednje leto